Jehovah's Witnesses and Male Clothing sizes

[fluffymark]

Firstly - Thank you Thank you Thank you all for the host of useful replies to my job hunting queries. I've been organized and even applied for 5 jobs today. And millions of hugs to evil_nick for not only offering hints about how to polish my CV, but even going beyond the call of duty in attempting to find me a job at Panasonic. I'll get the new-shiny-CV back to you soon Nick, and you can pimp me at them. Yaaaaaay. *hugseveryone*

Now, I need hints in how to get rid of Jehovah's witnesses. They knocked on our door this morning, and one of them saw me and instantly started quoting passages about evil from Job (don't know what they were trying to tell me?). The other one was far more scary - he just smiled and said

`Hello Mark - are you still at Queen Mary College?'

Aaaaaaaarrgh!!!! One of the Jehovah's witnesses knows who I am. *hides*

You have no idea how scared I was. It transpired that he was on the Java course I taught last year. While the conversation had been turned away from sin and evil and instead focussed on computer programming (I'm sure I must be the first to discuss computer programming with Jehovah's witnesses), the downside was I felt I couldn't be rude and just shut the door on them. And because I talked to them and they know me, they now think I like them, and want to come back. Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!! Fortunately I'm moving in a months time, but what if they come back before then? What do I do???? Help!!! *hidesinalittleballincorner*

Men's clothing sizes are silly. As in, they tell me I'm not a man. I need to buy a suit, so today I go into a suit shop. They ask me what size.

Eeep!

`ummmmmmm...I've no idea' comes my small mouselike reply. *hides*

You see, I don't usually buy men's clothes. I know what size I am for women's clothing, but men's clothing defeats me. And theres a good reason for this. Men's clothes aren't designed in my shape and size. After trying on a couple of suits at the far extreme far end of the rail, it was determined there was nothing in the whole shop that would fit me. I was highly amused by this whole revelation. *giggles*. They found they could eventually order one for me in my size, and now I'm going to have to wait a week. And it's only going to get worse - I'm losing weight again. Someone send me chocolate. Please! *flutterseyelashes*

Comments

[rowan-leigh.livejournal.com]

In that situation, I think the easiest thing to do would just be to calmly tell them that you're not interested, and if they persist, shut the door on them. They must be getting used to far ruder behaviour than that by now.

[fluffymark]

The problem with that is, I find it impossible to be nasty to anyone, unless they've done something that really really really upsets me (and even then feel bad about it). It just can't do that sort of thing, it's totally against my nature.

[pinkdormouse.livejournal.com]

I have only a vague idea what size I am in men's or women's clothes. Hence catalogues and M&S are really useful for ordering/grabbing a range of sizes and sending some all back depending on which, if any fit in all the places they should.

Good luck with the job ting.

Gina

[fluffymark]

I usually try things on and see what fits in shops. Most shops have differing opinions on what size is actually what anyway. It's still really infuriationg when i see something i like, but it doesn't go down to my size. Happens a lot. Grrrrrr. :(

[snow-leopard.livejournal.com]

The Jegovahs Witness thing is easy - arange a fetish party and invite them around at the same time!!! I managed to put the Mormans (sorry "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints") off as they came around a Sunday morning and we had a load of semi-naked goth crashed on the couch, sofa-bed and floor and I was still in my eyeliner!! I think they thought we were some drug parlour/bordello. Giggle.
As for the weight loss - damn it go to a doctor. It could be something serious and you need to get it checked out. Even if it ISN'T serious you need to get a doctor to help you with a diet to help you PUT ON weight. Its getting silly when you weigh less than me and I am only just in the boundaries for "healthy weight".

[fluffymark]

*giggles* That would be funny. Sadly, yesterday i was reasonably smartly dressed (for me) as I was just about to head out to the Job Centre when they called. Next time, i hope it's fishnets and miniskirts and eyeliner. :)

I don't think I weight less than you - you weight less than me, and if you're wanting me to see a doctor, you should certainly see one! *smallhug*

[mirabehn.livejournal.com]

*grins at your Mormons story*

My father had a fantastic technique for Mormons. He just opened the door and went "Church of Latter Day Saints?". And they were so surprised that he didn't call them Mormons that they didn't know what to say.

My Grandpa used to invite Jehovah's Witnesses in and debate theology with them. He ran rings round them. :)

As for the weight loss - damn it go to a doctor. It could be something serious and you need to get it checked out. Even if it ISN'T serious you need to get a doctor to help you with a diet to help you PUT ON weight.

Well said. Mark: please go to the doctor. This is me, your friendly neighbourhood invalid telling you to go to the doctor and at least get a good weight-gaining diet to follow. Please. *hugs*

[fluffymark]

I'm sure they're lovely people - this is part of the problem - i just can't be nasty to people like that. Even if i can't stand being preached at. Much as I admire the principles of christianity, its exactly that side (preaching, evangelism) of christianity that rubs me up the wrong way.

I eat protein! Milk is one of my favourite drinks, and i have a healthy dose of it ever morning (full fat milk too) and most evenings. Yesterday I had fish for dinner, which is also high protein. It almost certainly is a thyroid problem, as I believe my dad had a dodgy thyroid, and it's inherited.

Not going to complain about eating lots of milk chocolate. Yummy. :)

[kmazzy.livejournal.com]

i will lard you right up after Heather! never fear! (maybe before Heather too.)

[fluffymark]

That sounds more dodgy than it should be *giggles*
Yes, you're very welcome to lard me up. Looking forward to Heather. Yaaaay. :) :)

[http://users.livejournal.com/_lois_/]

/me sends chocolate and icecream and all the fattening things that I'm not eating atm.

However more seriously you *should* go see a doctor if you are losing weight and there is not obvious reason for it, ie you are still eating sensible amounts of food, not suddenly dong lots and lots of exercise or something. If you're not careful you'll disappear in a puff of smoke.

[fluffymark]

Yummy chocolate and icecream. :) :)

Yes, it's worrying. I've told myself i'll go and see a doctor if i fall below 50 kilos, but it'snot that bad yet. Or when I move, i'll finally register with a doctor and get them to give me a checkup. Technically i've not even been registerewd with a GP for the past 3 years, the ones in this area of london really don't appeal. In any case, it takes 3 weeks (at least) to register me, and i'm moving in a month, so it all seems a bit pointless. :/

You know the easy answer...

[alektoeumenides.livejournal.com]

Options for putting on weight:

1/ eat more cirki
2/ go visit my mum for dinner

I rest my case :)

Seriously though, perhaps you should see a doctor about it. After all, you do eat normally(ish) and certainly shouldn't be losing weight so quickly.

Meeples.

Re: You know the easy answer...

[fluffymark]

Yay Cirki! :) *happysmiles* Should buy more and eat lots of them and lots of them until i burst. :)

And your mum is lovely - should i phone her and visit again? I do like chatting to her and being fed. :)

I need to find someone to feed me vast quantities of food!!!

[gnimmel.livejournal.com]

Eeep, I didn't know you had any weight left to lose! You'll have to start tying a string to your ankle for people to grab in case you start to float away...

Had dream about men in dresses last night. Beginning to wonder if this is your subtle psychological influence, since haven't seen a man in a dress apart from you for rather too long. :)

[fluffymark]

I'm losing the weight that appeared over the summer. Most of the time i'm stable about 53 kilos, but a couple of months back I was pleased to see i'd jumped to 59 kilos. Last time i measured, i was down to 55 kilos. Don't know where it'll go next.

We need to pursuade more men to wear dresses, obviously. This must be done. :)

[inskauldrak.livejournal.com]

right - extra bag of chips for you tonight! And yes, people are right, if this doesn't stop *soon* we will send you to the doctor.

On the Jehovah front, we could:

a) shout "stone him" whenever they say the J-word
b) say we're catholic (my mum swears by this)
c) leave some of my commie stuff about by the door (I have a lovely poster of Lenin)

[fluffymark]

Yay chiiiiiiiips! Yes plese. Even if snow_leopard is already feeding both me and gothslut this evening, chips would be more than welcome. I'm going to bake some very chocolately cakes and eat the lot. :)

They're very clever about the J-word - i've never heard a Jewhova mention the J-word. They rarely even mention the G-word, just mumble on about the evils of greed and society (you'd think they were commies themselves from half of what they say). Wonder what would happen if you stuck a large poster of Lenin on our front door! *giggle*

[ixwin.livejournal.com]

You could always try robert_jones' approach (http://www.livejournal.com/users/robert_jones/18210.html) to Jehovah's Witnesses.

And I agree with the comments above about going to a doctor about your weight...I don't want you disappearing on us!

[fluffymark]

I usually end up in some theological argument with them, previous times they've called around. But i'm usually underprepared, and while i've convinced myself of my argument, i have little in the way of evidence to convince them, and so it ends in awkward stalemate.

I think I know what's causing the weight problem - i'll see a doctor after i move, as soon as i get around to actually registering with one.

Ohferchrissake...

[(Anonymous)]

If you have good reason to think you have a thyroid problem which is preventing you from gaining weight then sitting around making up excuses not to see a Dr is just plain stupid. Could you not have registered with the college medical practice?

And have you called NHS Direct to ask their views on your imminent vanishing? 0845 4647. It isn't brilliant but if they say there is something wrong them you should definitely take action sooner rather than later. You can register as a visitor for a one off appointment at any GP surgery. Admittedly weightloss may not appear to be an emergency, but if you are becoming even more tiny than you are already then there must be something very wrong. And they can do a blood test to check out your thyroid function then and there.

There is an italian ice-cream parlour on Charing X Rd round the corner from the National Portrait Gallery. Their stuff has a creamier texture than the ice cream from Marine Ices but is still delicious.

I share your problem with being nasty to religious people at the door. This may be one disadvantage of Balham - we have a lot of churches. On the whole whilst I don't allow myself to argue back. Being a Witness changes someones entire lifestyle, they may be ostracised if they leave the faith. So in an argument about religion they have a lot more to lose than I have - and what's the point of arguing if there is no possibility of winning. I really want to share my insights into evolutionary theory with them but I restrain myself.

Down girl.

Penny

Re: Ohferchrissake...

[fluffymark]

I was registered with the college medical practice when i lived in Stepney green. When i moved away from the area, they deregistered me without telling me. They've probably managed to lose my entire medical record (again) by now. :/ I'll find a docro to register with soon.

Eeeeeeeeep Icecream. Thanks for that pointer - i'll try and remember them. :) Theres a lot of churches in this area too - in fact before i moved to this area i'd never enountered a religious type at the door before, and now they appear every couple of months or so, but we usually manage to scare them off.

I'm surpised you turn down the chance of an argument, Penny (i know what you're like), but you're reasoning makes sense. You're not trying to convert them.

Thank you!

[neonchameleon.livejournal.com]

Two known ways of getting rid of Jehovas Witnesses (polite refusal is only a stopgap). The first is to out-argue them and be better at theology than they are, something that isn't too hard (although IME they tend to know a lot of limited quotations). This usually just gets them extremely confused. (Pointing out that Jehovah is actually a mis-reading of the bible is always fun, if a cheap shot)

The other is to invite them in to help sacrifice a lamb or calf, preferably when wearing either a dressing gown that looks like a robe or goth clothing. (Note: sacrifice a lamb = lamb chops). Variations on theme also work.

(The apocryphal invite them in and they get confused doesn't work).

Note: IME, as long as you can steer them away from religion, evangelists tend to be nice, well meaning people.

As for not knowing your size in suits, don't worry- I don't have much of a clue as to mine either.

[fluffymark]

*giggles* I'll keep those methods in mind, should they return! :)